Instead of writing another serious strategy article, i hope nobody minds if i take a break today to share this dumb list i’ve been working on. Here are my official nominations for the category of worst slides in fighting game history. Ready?
#5: Evo2k5 ST 3on3 Grand Finals – CaliPower vs Gian
At the 5:02 mark, Gian’s Dhalsim throws out a desperation c.HK slide to escape the corner, but Valle’s Ryu sees it coming and lands c.MK xx Shinku Hadoken for 60% damage.
#4: SoCal SSF4 Winners Finals – ComboFiend vs Shizza
At the 2:44 mark, ComboFiend’s Guy gives up a 25% lead by whiffing a mistimed c.HK slide to punish Chun Li’s whiffed c.HK sweep. Shizza happens to be standing just outside Guy’s slide range, so he responds with c.LK xx EX Lightning Legs, Kikosho to take the round.
#3: a-cho SFA3 2on2 – Shinya vs Crusher
At the 2:40 mark, Crusher’s V-Sodom tries to apply some lazy pressure with two consecutive c.HK slides, while sitting on a comfortable 30% life lead. Except the second one barely misses Shina’s A-Guy and the round abruptly ends.
#2: Toyko CvS2 Casuals – Shou vs Gao
At the 1:25 mark, Gao’s K-Geese taps c.LP once to break Shou’s A-Bison pressure, then gradually bullies his way out of the corner. Shou becomes visibly hesitant, then panics with a point-blank c.HK slide which costs him 60% vitality and leads to the round-ending dizzy.
#1: SBO 2003 ST 3on3 – Daigo vs More Vega
At the 9:09 mark, More Vega’s Bison walks into a mid-range fireball, then initiates a max-range c.HK slide at Daigo’s Ryu during projectile slowdown. It’s painful to look at. This easily gets my personal vote for number one worst slide ever recorded. All others are number two or higher.
By the way, am i the only one who would enjoy watching a documentary-style compilation of the worst slides in the history of ever? Maybe someone who’s into making those types of videos will come through for us.
Hey if anyone has any suggestions, i wouldn’t mind adding two more candidates to bring the total up to five. For instance i couldn’t find a good one for SF4 but there’s gotta be some out there.
Must it only be of tourneys or high placed live battles?
Um, tourneys preferred i suppose … but i’m down for anything.
Well, I participate in Weekly SSF4 endless sessions with a group on Shoryuken.com. From the regional forums. We actually have a Youtube page running. We have been off for a few weeks, but it’s going to be starting back up this Tuesday. If I get anything good, I’ll send it your way. We have some great players.
After losing the previous round, ARG tries to do what he thinks is a safe and conservative slide with Claw to push Seki’s Dee Jay into the corner for what would be prime harassment range. Seki makes an excellent read with a psychic cr MK which eventually leads into another touch of death combo once ARG commits a few more errors against Seki’s zoning game.
I think I was telling you about this one at Evo, but still. It was one of the greatest cr mks of all time, as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip0zORh–bw#t=3m48s
And I actually hadn’t successfully copied the link there, ah well, there it is. Story first, I guess.
man, damage in those old games is huge. If you’re unlucky enough to get stunned it basically equates to instant death.
Loved that MK, didn’t even know that was going to bea slide (Ignorant)
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Personally i like any list of anything really, so long as they’re well thought out. I wouldn’t mind seeing something like “Top 3/5/10 biggest mistakes made at Evo/tournement setting”
Though it’d have to be illustrated on the games with what themistake was, so i could understand it. Things like Third Strike or pre-SFA3 i’d be ignorant to “mistakes”
& MVC is just a big mind**** to me.
Tarnish: Dang, that’s every bit as impressive as you described. Although it looks like Vega tries to poke with c.MP there. Took forever to pause it on Vega’s startup frame but i’m pretty sure it’s not a slide. Plus since i already have two ST examples, i’d like to diversify a bit more if possible. I’ll keep that matchvid in mind though; i’m sure it’ll come in handy for a future article.
Pokey86: Haha i’d like to see that list too. Although it would take such an absurd amount of research that i can’t think of anyone brave/foolish enough to attempt it.
Well then, I nominate the first round for the potential list of “Best Slides” that you may have in the future! The match is so versatile, you can probably get it in for “Best Combo” as well, lol.
I’m glad I wasn’t alone in trying to pause the video to see if it was the start up frames of a slide, in spite of giving up like a professional. I really thought it was a slide, though I wasn’t even aware that cr. MP could even be tagged from that distance. But it’s a hella good read, other wise and now I too have learned something!
It’s a punch for sure, but all of his crouching punches have the same startup animation frame. I’m guessing it’s c.MP and it’s probably safe to say it wasn’t c.HP but then who knows what ARG was thinking? And yeah, Vega sticks his leg way out during c.LP/c.MP so you can stuff it from pretty far away during startup (or later if you can dodge the claw somehow).
I knew he would want to push Seki closer to the corner, though I figure either option he chose would beat the traditional guessing games of “jump/block.” If he had slid and Seki jumped he’d have cross up thrown possibly? If he just did a light or medium punch, seems certain he’d recover in time for Scarlet Terror on a jump to take him to the corner. The cr MK was definitely a shocker, he definitely used that button to great effect in that match. I feel like Seki just went in there and executed, one of those matches where if you asked someone about what happened you’d probably get an answer that’s underwhelming in comparison to what you saw. Just experience at work there, it seems.
What really makes the match up so amazing is that Dee Jay is traditionally at a huge disadvantage on paper in some circles of thought. I think Japan had it as that maybe? Either way, America has it at 6-4 for those banking on the old US of A player opinion… which brings us here:
*CaliPower* i dont make tiers or diagrams….
*CaliPower* its a deceiving tool for new players
*CaliPower* imo
To anyone just starting to look at videos for some older games, you’re going to run into the interesting dichotomy of knowing there’s sure victory as long as you play without fear and that there is a difference in character tools/options that can make something look disadvantageous to a character vs another character. It’s also why reads like this can be as exciting as they are for some players.
Some people will see “Experience at work”, others may see “That’s a bad match up and he overcame the differences between paper and player.” Either way, examples like these are always great. My friend once called Pony “the King of Fleeting Moments” whenever we’d watch him do things like OCV folks with Zangief. It’s always a good time for me, anyway.
Tokido (Claw) vs Komoda (Blanka)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7IYz77ucbI#t=2m6s
this round is completely ridicules and a slide lovers dream, but after a long stare down Blanka jumps forward, claw tries to punish with a long range anti air slide but quickly looses 90% of his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE47IeUM8dw&p=DBD9FA233E4B46DB#T=1m0s
Blanka has the best slide imo, see it’s the only move you ever need to use as Gautam here
Wow, Komoda blew my mind!
Sweet, i added an Alpha 3 match that Buttermaker suggested and found an SSF4 match on my own. I think that rounds out the top five nicely, but if anyone runs into any better candidates, i’m always open to reconsider.
error1: Wow, that was brutal. Definitely deserves an honorable mention and a raised eyebrow in Vega’s direction. What was he thinking?