Ode to the 2-Hit Combo

Well, i finally got around to uploading a decent quality version of this old project to u2b, which probably means i should mention it here as well. It was premiered at Evo2k4 after two years of production. About half the clips were recorded by jchensor and about half by me, with a few contributions from MrWizard and zEvil. All the editing was done by jchensor over a six-month period – since he suggested the original premise and since he actually enjoys editing.

If there are any questions about specific combos, i’ll be happy to answer them as best i can, with as much detail as i can remember. Obviously this was before any of us obtained access to tool-assistance, so all of these clips were performed manually.

15 thoughts on “Ode to the 2-Hit Combo

  1. Maj Post author

    It needed to be split into three shorter parts due to u2b’s 15-minute limit. The middle segment transition happens to be continuous, so it couldn’t be cut in half. Luckily the other gaps between segments are static enough to keep the playlist relatively smooth.

    By the way, jchensor put up some additional material (including a transcript). It’s kind of funny reading through it though, because we didn’t even fully understand some of those games.

    Personally i ended up having to learn a whole bunch of games just to record one or two combos for the sake of adding more variety to the video. Before this video, i basically hadn’t recorded anything outside of CvS series.

    So it was a lot of work trying to figure out Jojo’s, LB2, MotW, GGX, SF3, KoF, Rival Schools, Marvel games, etc. In fact i think i even did some Star Gladiator and Dead or Alive combos.

  2. Theli

    (2nd) Best. CMV. Ever.

    Only question is if the makoto combo at the end only required one full completion of the triple taunt. I’m guessing that’s not stackable with itself, but I don’t know that detail.

  3. Maj Post author

    Theli: What’s the first? For the Daigo-esque Makoto combo, i’m pretty sure i only did one full Taunt triplet. I just checked real quick and they definitely don’t stack beyond that.

  4. onreload

    Yeah I didn’t think you could do two of the “level 3” taunts; SRK wiki seems to think that two of them do stack, but only the third part, which ups Makoto’s stun-gauge resilience…Not that important…also Theli, Ibuki did her command dash (qcf+k) into the Fukiage (up-punch), which I believe makes her take 1.5x damage. Sooo,

    Fukiage* = 160 dmg
    Makoto’s taunt = 1.625x
    Makoto’s super = 1.75x
    Ibuki’s cmd dash = 1.5x

    So, 160 * 1.625 * 1.75 * 1.5 = 4.265x = 682.5 dmg. (approx.) just in the first attack. If Ibuki really has 1,035 hit points, then that’s something like 65% of her total HP, and that seems to match up with the video…then, the Tsurugi (air axe kick)* does the same exact amount of damage as the Fukiage, and is unscaled as it’s only the second hit in the combo…So, as you can see, Ibuki is way more than dead. Like, she lost 131% of her life, if the data I have is all correct.

    *assuming the Heavy versions were used

  5. Maj Post author

    I can definitely verify that heavy versions of both moves were probably used.

    Um, wouldn’t half those bonuses disappear after the first hit?

  6. onreload

    I’m not sure about Ibuki’s Kasumi Gake (the command dash), but the general rule of damage boosters (generally taunts) in 3rd strike is that it’s “next hit or combo”.

    The fact that you’re asking is getting me suspicious – have you tested it? I’m at Uni at the moment and can’t, but all the notes on SRK about Personal Actions are usually quite accurate. I’ll test it later, but what I remember from re-watching some of RX’s videos a few days ago seem to show that the 2nd and 3rd hits of his combos still did beefed-up damage.

  7. Maj Post author

    I haven’t tested it directly, but if what you’re saying is true then almost anything would’ve killed Ibuki. And i don’t recall that quite being the case.

  8. Mystyr Nile

    *finishes watching vid*
    Ohh, that last one was epic.
    Those two moves each can nearly kill at full health, that was perfect timing.
    Had Hokuto’s Meteor not hit, Sakura’s would’ve sent Ryu flying.

  9. Theli

    @Maj
    I’m very partial to Ryu, so the one you did for Evo2k9/OHN8 has to be 1st.

    Daigo-esque? Is that some kind of in-joke? Heh.

  10. Maj Post author

    Mystyr Nile: I’m pretty sure jchensor included SFEX Guile’s c.HK as a joke.

    Theli: The dude who uploaded that Makoto clip wrote this in the description: “I can’t remember who perfomed his combo, i think is daigo… i really cant remember.” And it has 46k views, so the internet wins again!

    Snoooootch: Haha that’s just Blanka’s close standing fierce in SF2 World Warrior. That game had a handful of weird moves that never survived. Anyway the second hit only combos against a few characters – Gief, Sim, and crouching Chun i think.

  11. Maj Post author

    Looks like u2b now allows videos that run longer than 15 minutes, so i’ve reuploaded the whole thing in one piece without any unnecessary interruptions. Way to go u2b – took ya’ll long enough.

  12. Maj Post author

    Yesterday i got an email from no_reply@youtube.com saying:

    “Dear sonichurricanedotcom,

    Your video “Ode to the 2-Hit Combo“, may have content that is owned or licensed by SME. As a result, the video’s audio has been muted.”

    Apparently they muted the entire audio track, yet they’re still playing ads on top of it. Classy. How is this legal?

    To be clear, i’ve never received a penny from u2b ads. I have no idea where that money goes and there’s no option to disable those ads. And when you try to watch it on a mobile device, it’s blocked with the following message:

    “The content owner has not made this video available on mobile. Add to playlist to watch it later on a PC.”

    That makes it sound like i’m the one who made the choice, when it had absolutely nothing to do with me. So irritating.

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